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Andrea Giovino – Get Gotti

In this episode of Gangland Wire, Gary looks into the life of Andrea Giovino and her long-standing involvement with the mafia. Growing up in Brooklyn, Andrea’s family was deeply intertwined with organized crime, with her mother running illegal gambling games and her brothers becoming contract killers for various crime families. During our interview, Andrea shares intimate details of her time in the drug trade and her relationships with prominent mob figures.

She is in the recently released Netflix documentary, “Get Gotti,” which sheds light on the infamous mobster John Gotti. Andrea reveals that she had a personal connection to Gotti’s inner circle, as she was once the live-in girlfriend of Bonanno capo Frank Lino, who later became a government witness against his own son. With her firsthand experiences, Andrea provides an intriguing perspective on the documentary and its portrayal of the mob’s inner workings.

Furthermore, Andrea opens up about her past relationships with drug dealers, including her involvement with a Gotti-connected heroin dealer named Mark Reiter. She later married another drug dealer named John Fogarty, who had strong ties to the Gotti family and a reputation for being tough. Andrea shares the challenging dynamics of her relationship with Fogarty, suspecting him of committing a murder and eventually praying for his arrest as a means to escape the chaos.

Andrea’s life takes a sharp turn when Fogarty is caught in a drug deal and subsequently arrested. At this time, her phone is tapped, uncovering conversations about violent threats and debt collection. Both Andrea and her brother are also arrested and charged. However, Fogarty eventually confesses to several murders, spending six years in prison before entering witness protection. During this tumultuous period, Andrea herself provides valuable information to the authorities and is rewarded with a settlement, which enables her to relocate to a small town in Pennsylvania under the protection of DEA agents.

Reflecting on her past, Andrea reveals how her upbringing in a neighborhood plagued by poverty and influenced by street guys led her into the mafia lifestyle. Initially attracted to their way of life, she found herself dating and associating with high-profile organized crime figures like John Gotti. Andrea recounts a story where she sought the assistance of respected figure Danny Marino to recover funds that she had put down on a house. This anecdote highlights the deep sense of loyalty and protection within organized crime.

However, as Andrea’s life unravels, she becomes increasingly disillusioned with the criminal lifestyle. She loses custody of one of her children and faces threats on her life. Today, she is unafraid to speak out against criminal activities and is determined to turn her life around. Andrea displays a newfound appreciation for integrity, honesty, and a humble life. She encourages others, especially women, to avoid being enticed by bad characters or the allure of quick money, emphasizing the importance of education and making better choices.

As the conversation draws to a close, they discuss the consequences faced by those involved in criminal activities, dispelling the misconception that they can avoid prison time. Despite her own struggles and regrets, Andrea is grateful for her past experiences, as they have allowed her to grow and develop a deep understanding of the wrongs inherent in that lifestyle. She expresses appreciation for the support of her listeners and encourages them to engage with her content, as well as explore Andrea’s book, “Divorced from the Mob,” and the Netflix series, “Get Gotti.” Additionally, she highlights resources for individuals dealing with PTSD, substance abuse, and encourages feedback and discussion.
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Transcript

Introduction to the Gangland Wire studio and documentary review

 

[0:00] All you wiretappers out there, I’m back here in the studio of Gangland Wire, as you can tell.

Recently, Netflix released a very high-end, high-production values documentary called Get Gotti.

I’ve watched the first one, it’s pretty darn good actually. They really, they did a good job, just like they did on Fear City.

Now, I interviewed one of the participants in this documentary about five years ago, so I went back and looked that interview up.

It was a woman who was involved in and around Gotti’s personal party life.

Her name is Andrea Giovino, and she has written a tell-all book called Divorce from the Mob.

Now I need to tell you a little bit about her before I play these clips from her interview.

She grew up in a mob family in Brooklyn.

Her mother ran an illegal gambling game and crap game for Joey Gallo, Crazy Joey Gallo, in the basement of their house.

Two of her brothers will grow up and end up in the mob and be contract killers for different crime families.

One, Frankie Silvestri, was a member of the Colombo family, And the other brother, Johnny Silvestri, or Bubblegum, they called him, was a freelancing button man for the Luccheses and other groups.

And he’s presently incarcerated in a federal prison on a murder rap.

Silvestri, Frankie Silvestri, he got involved in some of the drug things that she and her last husband, or next to the last husband, maybe if she got married again, got involved in.

And he did some time.

 

[1:22] He actually talked a little bit to help her get out of it. She’ll tell you a little more about that.

She’s really hesitant to talk at that time. She’s, now that she’s been in this documentary, she was probably a little more free and easy talking. And it’s been a few years since then.

But at the end of her interview, she tells a little bit about making a documentary and who’s in it.

Discussion on the making of the documentary and its network change

 

[1:42] And just think about it, this is five years ago. That’s how long a major network spent on this documentary.

So it’s crazy. And originally it was gonna be on A&E, she said.

But I think that Netflix somehow bought out a lot of the footage and the project took it over because it’s exactly as she describes. I need to give you a little needed background before we actually hear from Mrs. Giovino.

That’s G-I-O-V-I-N-O, Andrea Giovino. By the time she was 21, she was the live-in girlfriend of a Bonanno capo named Frank Lino.

Now, you may have heard of Frank Lino.

He’s a pretty well-connected guy in the Bonanno family. He was really involved close to Joy Messina and other capos in the family.

He was wealthy enough, He bought her a 1978 Mercedes-Benz 450 SL convertible as a Valentine’s Day gift one time.

He would instruct her in the art, shall we call it, the art of buying the best brands in clothing and jewelry.

He would send her out shopping in a chauffeured limo. Needless to say, she was very, very attractive.

 

[2:51] She’s still attractive, but you see her in that documentary.

You can imagine what she must’ve looked like when she was in her early 20s.

 

[2:58] He bought them matching platinum presidential Rolex watches.

And I’ll get that a little history on Frank Leno, a little history on Frank Leno, which I found him an interesting guy.

Frank Leno’s involvement in criminal activities and arrest

 

[3:09] He was once arrested for the shootings of two Brooklyn police detectives, a Luke Fallon and a John Finnegan out of the 70th detective squad.

They were age 28 and 56, and they were found shot dead after a holdup of a tobacco store.

And Leno was part of that robbery and they got $5,000. Now that must’ve been a tobacco store that had a bunch of cash in it for some whatever reason.

He was charged with the murders because he supplied the getaway vehicle.

So one of the stick-up men could run away to Chicago.

Somebody must have really started talking and the chips started falling, the dominoes started falling in this deal. And they got to him who really only supplied a car after the fact. They took him into the 66th Precinct.

 

[3:53] For interrogation. This was not a fun interrogation. Now, he claimed later that the cops drove staples into his hands and a broomstick up his butt, kind of like the, uh, Amidalo guy or whatever his name was that, uh, that I think when somebody really did do that with him. Anyhow, he did have a broken arm and a broken leg after he got out of the police station that day. He was led off with 3E cop to three years probation after he was threatened to sue the city for police brutality.

Allegations of police brutality and Frank Leno’s family issues

 

[4:20] They say that one of his eyes blinked uncontrollably from then on, which he claimed were injuries he received from that 1962 police beating in the 66th precinct.

He confided to his mistress, Andrea Giovino, that he was unlucky because his son, Michael, is a huge gambler and has lost a lot of money.

So these mob guys often have family problems like that.

 

[4:42] And she’s going to talk a lot about that life. She also reported that he got really pissed off when a Bonanno member named Ronald Filicomo had his son Joseph Leno help dispose of Sonny Black or Dominic Napoleon’s corpse in 1981.

Frank Leno himself will eventually become a government witness like all the rest of those New York mobsters. He testifies against his own son Joseph and was in on charges of extortion and racketeering. Frank Leno was a guy who was in the room when the three Capos, Dominic Trinchera, Philip Giacalone, and Sonny Red InDelicato were gunned down, if you remember the murder of the three Capos. But…

Frank Leno’s involvement in the murder of three Capos

 

[5:24] He was in there, but he ran it. There’s one guy that ran out there. He was the guy that ran out the door when the shooting started. He also got involved in the murder. Joe Massino got him involved in the murder of Sonny Black Napolitano And we know why that happened, because he introduced Joe Pistone or Donnie Brasco into the family and promoted him and really tried to get him to.

 

[5:45] Be a made man. I think he’s the one that that’s probably what really killed him.

Joe Massino supposedly said, you know, there’s a ticket’s got to be punched for this or a receipt to collect a receipt for this little lapse in security. Leno supposedly picked up Napolitano and took him over to this Ernest Filicomo’s house. Leno pushed Napolitano down the stairs and Filicomo shot him to death down the stairs, down at the bottom of the stairs. This was of course from Joe Messino. She got involved in a relationship with a Gotti-connected heroin dealer named Mark Reiter. Reiter will go on with Anthony Ruggiano and Gene Gotti, and they’ll go down on kind of the famous narcotics charges. If you ever watch Fear City, they talk a lot about those narcotics charges where Anthony Ruggiano or Quek Quek was talking a lot and they had this narcotics case on him. She wasn’t really that connected to him. She has an interesting story about how she met him this one night on the dance floor with John Gotti, but then she’ll eventually marry another drug dealer. And this lady, she liked that high life.

I’ll tell you right now she liked things and that high life. She’s totally different than that now.

She married a drug dealer named John Fogarty. Now not that John Fogarty, the other John Fogarty.

 

[6:57] Now when they met, Fogarty was living in a shabby one bedroom apartment wearing track suits and trainers. It wasn’t long after that as they got together and he was taking on bigger risks, he ended up buying a $100,000 speedboat. He named it the Handy Girl after Andrea.

She claims that John Fogarty would rent a limo and drive down Atlantic City with a trunk full of cocaine for distribution down there. He was known as Big John. He had a reputation for being tough. She talks a little bit about that. What I could find out about him, he owned a construction company and he was involved with the Gotti folks through the construction business.

He established a Cuban connection in Florida and started moving these kilos of cocaine up to New York. The mob wanted part of it, so we had to kick them a piece of the action, and she talks about that. She kind of showed what he was made of when he set up a couple of guys from Brazil who were transporting a large load of coke up to him.

After he got the cocaine, he kept the money and shot the Brazilians in the head and left them for dead. He said the mob knew they could count on him, now he was Irish so he could never be a made guy, but he was a good earner and he was on his way up.

The downfall of Andrea Giovino’s relationship with John Fogarty

 

[8:04] That all will…

 

[8:05] Crash and burn in the end. She’ll end up in the witness protection program and she talks about that in her life there. She said that one time Fogarty came home one night for dinner and he.

 

[8:17] Had two bodies in the trunk. She made him take off his bloody shoes before he entered the house.

This is all in her book. She told him, said, you’re not invincible. Look what happened to Mark Riker. And he was on his way. The feds got him and they were on his way to the penitentiary.

She knew that when he became arrogant and angry and defensive that he was headed for a crash pad somewhere and just walked out on her and she knew who was on his way down. The whole thing was spinning out of control on her. Fogarty’s Miami connection was a Cuban named Aldo and he was really close. He’d come over to their house for dinner and she liked to cook chicken parmesan and other Italian dishes. He’d always stay at their house when they came. Aldo one time made a $40,000 payment to her husband, John Fogerty, in counterfeit bills. Now, maybe he knew it and maybe he didn’t. I like to think he didn’t really know it. But the next time they were together and out drinking, our friend Aldo was never seen again and they never found his body.

She said she suspected her husband killed him and disposed of his body. She wasn’t happy about it.

She liked the guy. And then she noticed that he was wearing a Rolex, a different Rolex, And that had been all those. And she left him after that.

So she used to pray. God let John go to jail. So the insanity stops.

John Fogarty’s Downfall: From Rehab to Drug Deal

 

[9:30] And pretty soon he did catch a case and he checked himself into rehab in Kentucky.

 

[9:35] While he was down there in the treatment center. He did a treatment center drug deal.

Met a guy who claimed he could get him a great deal on a lot of Kentucky marijuana, which there is a there’s a whole bluegrass mafia, they call it down there.

Big marijuana dealers.

He agreed. And after he released, he went down to Tennessee, pick up what he thought That was $100,000 worth of high-grade Kentucky marijuana, but he met with the DEA agent who was actually his treatment center buddy and the rest is history.

 

[10:04] He was arrested and charged with interstate traffic and held without bail then.

 

[10:08] And during this time when he goes in, they tap Andrea’s phone and they listen to some three-way conversations between herself, Fogarty, and her brother, John Silvestri, who was kind of the enforcer type. And they were talking about collecting debts. John Fogarty told.

 

[10:23] Silvestri, he said, tell them I’ll rip their fucking heads off. And Andrea said some words like that too. And then they put the whole case together. They arrest her and her brother. They serves four Staten Island residences, and they’re all part of their network, and Fogarty ends up confessing to a bunch of murders. He served six years in the federal penitentiary before going into witness protection. Her brother, Frankie Silvestri, confessed to the murder of nine men, and again, he started giving testimony about somebody, and he is in witness protection.

She gave a lot of information. They gave information on people, and they gave everybody up in order to help her, is what she claims. She ended up with a settlement of $75,000, moved her to a new town, small town. She had a little baby, six months old. She didn’t know what to do. She didn’t really want to go into witness protection and go somewhere else. She’s out and went to Pennsylvania, made friends with some DEA agents and they kind of protected her for a while.

And she ended up joining the PTA and joining the church and fundraising committee and became friends with these agents. Andrea had quite a life, so sit back and listen to Andrea Giovini talk a little bit about her life and her book, don’t forget, is Divorced from the Mob.

 

[11:39] I became involved in this lifestyle. My mom back in the early 60s was running crack guns in the basement of our home for Crazy Joe Gallo. What happened back then, I come from one of ten, so my dad was a truck trailer driver, but you know there was a lot of poverty back in the day. So the street guys were the guys that were making money. They used to pay my mom, play cards in the basement. You know we were very young, we would, you know, go upstairs, serve food, and she’d get paid for that.

So I was very comfortable, you know, growing up with the guys in the neighborhood.

Eventually, as I became a teenager, that’s what I was attracted to, because that’s what.

 

[12:18] I was comfortable with.

They didn’t need an education because they felt that, you know, education, you go and learn bad things in college or, you know, high school, anyone who has drinks, who drugs, have sex.

With Laura Bell, get married, find a guy, cater to your husband, and basically, that was a big part, because every woman today, I feel, should have an education, but that’s why I got involved with the people I got involved with, because of low self-esteem and not being able to have an education and being comfortable with people that, that’s all I knew was that type of personality.

I started, like in the neighborhood that I grew up in, in Brooklyn, Bensonhurst, everybody knew the street guys.

And I think that I dated a lot of street guys, but frankly, now at 22 years old, I was even captain.

 

[13:10] I was with him for quite a few years. I think I learned a lot from him about the street life.

And then after that, it was more Mark Ryder, which I was very comfortable with.

John Gotti, Mark Ryder, you know, I knew all those, you know, very high profile organized crime people. Bruce Cutler knowing me, which was John Gotti’s attorney.

That I ran with these people and they were very comfortable speaking in front of me, Because they knew I need a lifestyle and you make it trust me of not saying, Stuff that I had overheard, but I’ll tell you one particular story. That’s a good story, The guys in the neighborhood growing back, you know going back in that time frame that era, Take care of their own Italians take care of their own. I had a problem I was in I had to divorce, From a legal businessman that I was married to and I was in the midst of buying the home. I was in contract and.

The $60,000 Under the Table Deal

 

[14:13] Back in the day they you didn’t have to they didn’t have the law where you had to show where your money came from So long story short, I put, $60,000 on a house in Queen’s Village the house was $260,000. So I put $60,000 under the table with the guy.

He was an Irish guy that owned a couple of bars in Manhattan or along Second Avenue. So I gave him $60,000 cash money, but then I decided a couple months later, I didn’t want to stay in Queens. I wanted to move back to Brooklyn. So I, had said to him, I think I’m going to, I want to get out of this deal. I said, you could still sell a house and all of that. I said, but you know, you got to give the money back. Long story short, he says, no, I’m not giving the money back no way I’m not doing it and I said to him you really want to go this road I said because I mean this is not something that I’m gonna sit back and take you really you know like I kept trying to really work with this guy to.

 

[15:06] Give me the money back he didn’t want to give me the money back long story short I go to the club in Brooklyn where all the street guys are that know me and Danny Marino was there which became the boss after Danny Gravano left he took over Danny took over he was a captain back then he was very recognized and also very well-respected in the street and he knew me very well. I told him the story, and I’ll never forget it was a Thursday. He said to me, you’re going to be home. I was living in Queens at the time. You’ll be home tomorrow morning? And I said, yeah, I’m going to be home. And he said, okay, I’ll have somebody contact you. I said, okay.

Lo and behold, they went to the guy’s bar. The old man had his son working for him.

Son was working. There were four guys that pulled up and they said, you know, they let them know that, you know, we were street people and that you’re not to beat her. They took the son in the car to the father’s house and they gave him no other choice but to give the money back. And I’m not going to say what was done, what wasn’t done, but the next morning, 10 o’clock, somebody that might do the whole $60,000. And I said, well, did you, why did you take something, $5,000, whatever? And they said, no, no, no, no, we’re not taking anything because nobody’s going to come into our neighborhood and try to shake down somebody that we know that is a good person that you know you just don’t beat a woman.

Interesting. So they should take care of their own if they need.

People get scared of organized crime and they think like, oh…

 

[16:28] What these people are going to do. They never go out and hurt innocent people.

They don’t do that. It’s amongst themselves. It’s amongst territory sometimes. It’s among somebody tried to rip somebody off. Somebody tried to beat you up. Somebody took over somebody else’s business. They don’t go try to hurt innocent people.

Meeting John Gotti and Mark Reiter

 

[16:46] Yeah, that’s been my experience. I’m looking over my notes here from your book, and I note that, And when you met Mark Reiter the first night, he was sitting with John Gotti, uh, in a Manhattan, in a club in Manhattan. Uh, can you tell us a little bit about that story?

It describes him as being a dead ringer for actor Ray Liotta, a handsome, uh, hard faced dude.

Yeah, he was very handsome. Very, very, very handsome.

I was just out with my friends. People like us could recognize other people. Like I just knew they were sure.

Guys, we just, we all could recognize each other just on mannerisms.

I was out with my sister and my girlfriends, and they sent me over a bottle of Don Perignon.

 

[17:26] And I said, oh, it was actually a bottle of Kristal, because John Gotti liked ristal. And I sent it back.

And then when I went on the dance floor, Mark Ryder came over and started dancing, and he was like, he sent the bottle back. I was like, yeah, I don’t want to be bothered.

And he was like, you know, it’s John Gotti, I said, I don’t care who he is, tell him I don’t want nothing.

But they like that feistiness. They like that you can handle your own.

And then that’s actually how I met Mark Reiter, was very persistent.

And I met John Gotti through him, but I already knew Bruce Cutler because Bruce Cutler was pretty well known and we used him as an attorney.

I just know all those guys, you know, through the neighborhood.

So this Mark Reiter, best I could tell, he already was running a pretty decent size heroin distribution organization.

And I have to assume if he can sit with John Gotti, then John Gotti was probably getting piece of that action. I don’t know if that ever came out. Tell us a little bit about it.

Well, they always get a piece of the action. I mean, if you’re, they always get like kickback, from stuff like that. And then in turn, the Gambino crime family protects those people if.

[18:31] They have a problem in the street. So, I mean, they all got convicted on the heroin charges.

Gene Gotti, it was Anthony Carneglia, which were all connected to the the Gambino crime family. So it’s a public knowledge that heroin, actually even Angelo Ruggiano that was caught on wiretap through DEA and FBI speaking about heroin and all of that.

Gambino crime family was getting kicked back from the heroin trafficking.

Interesting. So much for the mafia ban on drug dealing, I guess.

As long as you can distance yourself a little bit. Why we had the same thing in Kansas City.

I do believe, though, that John Gotti, back in that time frame, like, you know, the whole Gambino crime family, Paully Castellano will get killed and all of that, were the most notorious gangsters, as big as Al Capone.

I mean, you know, you have…

 

[19:24] Tough guys, Mobters in Jersey, Chicago, wherever, but you’ve not heard of anyone like John Gotti.

I mean, when you were to meet John Gotti, and if you ever met him, you would understand he walked in a room and there was so much charisma just reeking from him. You would just know that he’s somebody. Here he is, a notorious cold-blooded killer, and he’s on the cover of Time Magazine.

I don’t know of anyone other than Al Capone that got the notoriety or the recognition other than John Gotti. It’s a good way to draw a lot of government attention, isn’t it? Yes, absolutely. A lot of government attention. But is crime worth it? No, it’s not worth it. It’s not.

You know, I have a totally different life, almost 20, almost 30 years now. You know, that was when I was very young. I’m a totally different person today. I’m not the person I was. I live a very peaceful, you know, great life. I raise my children differently. I try to teach people crime doesn’t pay. I was very young, very naive. That’s all I know. I believe when you have a harsh downfall like I did, I mean with me there were contracts out all my life. I was facing a.

 

[20:30] Lot of prison time. So I had no other way to go but then to go off. I lost custody of one of my children. You know, the wiretaps of a hit on me were very real because the feds came to me and my attorneys made me listen to it. You know, my whole life changed. I’m fearless. I’m not afraid.

If I was afraid, I wouldn’t have wrote a book.

I feel that there’s a bigger person than me watching over me.

I’m very spiritual, very grounded.

I speak out. I’ve always been that way.

I feel that, you know, if I was to teach young women something, it’s to teach them that whatever…

 

[21:03] Group, or religion, or gang, or whatever you get involved in, and the guy is a bad boy, he’s a drug dealer, he’s a killer, it might look like a good life, or it might look, you, know, fat-slinged, but it’s not. It’s going to bring you down to a level that you don’t really want to go, or you’re not going to be able to get out. I just don’t, I don’t, I would never date a guy, I wouldn’t be around those types of men today, I wouldn’t condone anything they do today. Are there criminals still out there? Absolutely.

Was it back like it was at the day? No, but, um, it’s not something that I would want to be proud of.

It’s actually something I’m ashamed of. And it’s something that is very difficult for me to speak about.

I want to know a little bit about the man you did marry, uh, uh, John Fogarty. It looks like, uh, he was a father of, of some of your, you have some children by him. Matter of fact, I think.

My two late. Yeah. Right.

One of your daughters was even on the mob wives for the season or two that it was on, which is kind of interesting. Uh, I think Karen Gravano and, and, uh, I can’t remember the other, a couple of gals on that was, that was a pretty exciting show.

Life in the Crime Industry: Tough Irish Guy from Staten Island

 

[22:14] Yeah. Renee Graziano. Yep. All of them. John Fogarty, a tough, very tough Irish guy from Staten Island. Um, It’s what he had to do, drug runner himself, always in our industry, shot and ball.

With my brother and other people I know in the street life. And then everyone got arrested, was facing a lot of time.

I mean, he actually, he actually, him and my brother cooperated to take me off the case.

Oh, interesting. I’ve heard of that before, where a husband will go in and cooperate in order to keep his wife or child from being charged. That’s a pretty common tool that law enforcement will use if it’s possible to use it.

Yeah. I mean, a lot of them were facing a lot of years in prison.

I mean, he did 10 years in prison.

My brother did close to 15 years. A lot of the guys are still in that were on my case.

People think that when you cooperate, you get a sweet deal, you still go to prison.

 

[23:11] You still come out and you have it hard or get relocated with a different name, different ID.

The Reality of Cooperating: Prison Time and New Identities

 

[23:19] People think that you don’t go to prison.

Of course you go to prison.

It might not be 25 years, but they did like 10, 15 years. So, you know, that’s, that’s, you know, better doing 10 years than 25 to life.

You know, it is, it’s just not a good life.

There was a huge amount of money. I bet you guys had a pretty high lifestyle.

Probably looked like lifestyles of the rich and famous at one point in time.

Yeah, but it’s all not worth it. Today. I leave a very humble, simple life.

It’s not all of that’s not worth it. Nothing impresses me today.

What impresses me people that live their life with integrity that are honest, that are good, that are great husbands, great fathers, great members of the community.

I believe when you’re so entrenched in it and you don’t see clearly because I was so entrenched in that life, you don’t know anything other than that life.

You don’t know. So I think for me, the best thing that happened to me was getting arrested.

 

[24:11] Was losing everything because when I was arrested and I was relocated, I was able to develop and I was able to grow and see that there is more to life than that. Being taken out of my environment was very, very, very scary for me and being brought to an area where no one in that area is like me was so foreign and so scary that I had no other choice but to change and to grow up and and to see that that lifestyle is wrong on every level.

Learning the Hard Way: The Wrongness of the Criminal Lifestyle

 

[24:43] It’s a very, very hard life. It’s a tough life.

It’s, you know, to kill before the prison, parole, refining, parole, not worth it.

 

[24:50] I try to, when I do speaking engagements, teach women to not go after the bad guy or the guy in the fast lane that has the quick cash.

That education is very important and that without education, you know, you’re going to make poor choices in your life.

The way I did because of low self-esteem.

And don’t forget, Andrea Giovano and her book is Divorced from the Mob.

She’s in the new Netflix series, Get Gotti. So check her out on that.

I thank you for your time and participation with your success with her book.

Now y’all know I ride a motorcycle. So look out for motorcycles when you’re out there driving around.

If you have a problem with PTSD, go to the VA website and get their hotline number.

If you have a problem with drugs or alcohol, we just talked about problem.

People with problems with drugs or alcohol, they should have gone to Anthony Ruggiano’s treatment center.

If you have that problem, go to his website and get that hotline number.

And you know, he’s a drug and alcohol counselor down in Florida.

So go down to Florida and let him be your counselor and then let me know about it.

Let me know about the experience.

He’s got a YouTube page also. I think you can find the hotline number there.

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Anyhow, whatever you want to do. Thanks guys. I just love doing this.

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