In the below audio, Tuffy DeLuna discusses with Joe Agosto the problem of employees stealing from the casino. They are talking about the Tropicana. Carl Thomas had been allowed to hire his friend Donald Shepard and place him inside the count room. They discuss how much authority Shepherd should have if he finds others are stealing for themselves. Nick Civella will soon decree a moratorium on his own skimming or stealing to see of others are skimming themselves. The Car Dealer and Little T are Joey Cusamano and Tony Spilotro. These guys are connected to the Chicago mob. Tuffy wants it known that just because the employee is connected to these guys, they still cannot steal. It is interesting that they just discuss firing them. The Mafia myth out there is they would be beat up or killed. Tuffy knows that violence draws law enforcement heat and makes people into snitches who go into the Witness Protection program.